009: Kevin Seconds – Part 2

Published On April 17, 2015 | I’VE KNOWN YOU TOO LONG, PODCASTS

In Part 2, Dave and Kevin move the conversation along to more recent times. Topics include Straight Edge, Skeeno, changing musical styles over the years, the pitfalls of running record labels, Kevin’s quest to write 400 songs in 2015, and a particular unintelligible lyric in one of his most recognized songs.

Check out Kevin’s Bandcamp page: http://kevinseconds.bandcamp.com

Follow Kevin on Twitter: @kevinseconds

Follow 7 SECONDS on Twitter: @7seconds

Follow Nobody’s Nose on Twitter: @NOSEYNOBODY

Most of these conversations will contain shorthand speech and insider info that both parties will be familiar with and won’t necessarily stop to explain for the listener. Whenever possible, Dave will provide some after-the-fact definitions and descriptions. Like your own personal eavesdropping translator.


Some names and terms are repeated from Part 1, so if you don’t see what you’re looking for here, check back on that page.

Tim Yohannan: The guy behind Maximum RocknRoll who also had a hand in starting 924 Gilman Street and other Punk establishments. Also known as Tim Yo. Died in 1998.

Al Flipside: Al Kowalewski, co-founder of Flipside Magazine and Record Label.

JFA: JODIE FOSTER’S ARMY. The original Skate Punk band. Click HERE.

ADRENALINE O.D.: Early NJ Hardcore. Click HERE.

AGNOSTIC FRONT: Early NY Hardcore. Highly regarded and still kicking it out. Click HERE.

BIG BOYS: Early Hardcore Punk band from Austin, TX that included funk elements and apparently inspired the RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS. Click HERE.

Long Distance: Once upon a time phone calls outside of your area code would cost more money.

Pay Phone: A phone, usually to the side of a sidewalk, where you could exchange money for a phone call. Sightings of these are becoming rarer, and someday no one will believe that they ever existed at all. Like Bigfoot.

“The different gangs in The Warriors in the park”: Can you dig it? Click HERE.

Straight Edge: A lifestyle choice of abstinence from drugs and alcohol that originated in the Washington DC Punk scene in the early 1980s. It quickly caught fire in the minds of weirdos everywhere and spread worldwide. The X is used as its symbol, and SXE is how you shorthand it. Dave Larson has been Straight Edge since he was 16 years old, because he’s stubborn.

SS DECONTROL: Short for Society System Decontrol, which can be shortened even more to SSD. An early 80s Boston SXE band. Click HERE.

Henry and the S.O.A. 7”: This refers to Henry Rollins and the 1st record he performed on. THIS GUY and the 7” from THIS BAND.

TEEN IDLES: The DC band that started Dischord Records. Click HERE.

BEASTIE BOYS (When they were Punk Rock): When they sounded like THIS.

Tesco Vee: A 5th grade school teacher who founded Touch and Go fanzine and record label and later sang, and apparently still does, for THE MEATMEN. Famously politically incorrect. Click HERE.

“X’d Up”: Having and X on the back of your hand to indicate that you are Straight Edge.

THE EVENS: Ian MacKaye’s musical project with Amy Farina. A bit removed sound-wise from his previous efforts. Click HERE.

Ray Cappo: Another SXE icon. Also known as Raghunath, because he’s a Krishna. Sang for YOUTH OF TODAY and SHELTER, among others. Click HERE.

YOUTH OF TODAY: SXE band that Ray Cappo sang for. Click HERE.

Pete Chramiec: Played guitar for VERBAL ASSAULT and guitar/vocals for RAIN LIKE THE SOUND OF TRAINS. Click HERE.

THE WRECKS: Early 80s all-girl punk band from Reno. Click HERE.

Dangerous Minds Blog: THIS is the blog and THIS is the entry he’s talking about.

Riot Grrrl: An underground Hardcore Punk feminist movement that caught fore in the early 90s. Click HERE.

Another State Of Mind: A hugely influential Hardcore Punk documentary that used to show late night on cable. An absolute must see. Click HERE.

BYO: A record label that released crucial early 7 SECONDS records. Click HERE.

Mark and Shawn Stern: Two of the brothers that formed the band YOUTH BRIGADE (Click HERE) and BYO (Better Youth Organization).

Mark Anderson from DC: Punk Rock community activist who co-founded Positive Force D.C. in 1985.

VIOLENT CHILDREN: Early Connecticut Hardcore band featuring Ray Cappo on drums. Click HERE.

“He asked me if he could sing Trust to her”: Trust is one of 7 SECONDS’ beloved early songs, and it would make sense that a guy might want to sing it to his lady. Click HERE.

D-VISION: I really liked this band, but it is nearly impossible to find anything about them on the web these days. Click HERE.

WAR ON THE SAINTS: A band from Rockford, IL who released a 7” on Positive Force. Click HERE.

SQUIRREL BAIT: Mid-80s Punk band from Louisville, KY. Click HERE.

TOKEN ENTRY: Another great old Hardcore band, this one with a skaterock vibe, on Positive Force. Click HERE.

VERBAL ASSAULT: Any realistic list of the best that Hardcore could produce needs this band near the top. Click HERE.

“He’ll show you the drawn sheep”: He’s talking about the art from THIS RECORD.

Fat Mike: Vocalist/Bassist for NO FX and the founder of the label Fat Wreck Chords.

STRYPER: Christian glam metal band. Yuck. Click HERE.

POISON IDEA: Classic Punk Rock band from Portland, OR. Click HERE.

Satyagraha: A song from the 7 Seconds album Soulforce Revolution. Click HERE.

Fender’s Ballroom: A venue in Long Beach, CA that operated from 1984-1989.

BAD RELIGION Into The Unknown: The band’s 2nd record and a huge departure from their initial sound, whack alienated their fan base and caused the band to break up for a time, then to reform later playing only their Hardcore Punk tracks. Click HERE.

MINUTEMEN: I won’t even try to describe them. The Wiki is HERE. And you’ll recognize THIS TRACK from Jackass.

Rise Records: Oregon record label that is home to the most recent 7 SECONDS album. Click HERE.

DESCENDENTS: A very influential melodic Punk band that also spawned the band ALL. And they’re still at it too. Click HERE.

SLAPSHOT: Mid-80s hardcore band from Boston. Click HERE.

SPINAL TAP: Honestly, if you are last person out there who hasn’t seen this movie, it’s about time. Couldn’t hurt for everyone else to watch it again, either. Click HERE.


David Larson is a screenwriter from the Seattle area who ran an independent record label called EXCURSION for many years. Over the course of the last three decades, Dave has formed friendships with a large number of people who have made an artistic impact, mostly in the world of Punk Rock and Hardcore music. Many of these people have gone on to greater and more varied adventures in the worlds of art, film, music, politics, and activism. In this podcast, Dave uses the timeline of their first meeting to explore back and forth through their histories to try and gain a better understanding of how they came to be the people they are today.

They say history is written by the conquerors, and while none of these campaigns are complete yet, it is time to get some of these tales nailed down before they are lost to time and age.

Check out Dave’s episode of the WORD ON THE STREET podcast HERE.

Check out Dave and Ron Guardipee’s episode of the EDGELAND podcast HERE.


That’s Polymorph, a project by my friend Bryar Herrick. He has a ton of stuff you can check out here:


While you’re at it, give his other bands a listen: TICKLE TRUNK and THE DARKWAVE DEMO.


Check out books by Boris D. Schleinkofer at AMAZON and SMASHWORDS.

To get his audio book, ESCHATOPOLIS: CITY AT THE END OF THE WORLD, click this link:


And finally:

Dave’s book SHADOW KILLER, a story set in the world of Hugh Howey’s book WOOL, can be found at Amazon for Kindle here:


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