In an unusual twist, Christopher reveals he technically has known Dave for longer than Dave has known him. How such a thing might be possible, details of their high school friendship and co-worker status at both a skate shop and an engineering firm, and what took place during the twenty five or so years after in which they were completely out of touch with each other is more than enough to fill the hours of an overdue podcast episode. They also discuss Ron Guardipee’s role in bringing them back together as friends after multiple decades and Chris’s early observation of Ron as a human example of eigenvector centrality. Get into it.
Christopher’s Cadence: One Step Beyond podcast episode:
NOBODY’S NOSE YOUTUBE:
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Most of these conversations will contain shorthand speech and insider info that both parties will be familiar with and won’t necessarily stop to explain for the listener. Whenever possible, Dave will provide some after-the-fact definitions and descriptions. Like your own personal eavesdropping translator.
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MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:
Bill Baker: See episode 3 of this podcast.
Bret Van Horn: See episode 15 of this podcast.
THE FIRST STEP: Click HERE.
FIRST STEP:A late 80s Straight Edge band from Bellingham, WA. Not to be confused with THE FIRST STEP from North Carolina.
BAD BRAINS: Click HERE.
JFA: Click HERE.
THE VENTURES: Click HERE.
INSIDE OUT: Click HERE.
SHELTER: Click HERE.
Star Blazers Theme Song: Click HERE.
QUIET RIOT: Click HERE.
DAVID BOWIE: Click HERE.
DEPECHE MODE: Click HERE.
TALKING HEADS: Click HERE.
OMD: Click HERE.
THE MISFITS: Click HERE.
SUICIDAL TENDENCIES: Click HERE.
SEX PISTOLS: Click HERE.
DESCENDENTS: Click HERE.
TSOL: Click HERE.
TALES OF TERROR: Click HERE.
BLACK FLAG: Click HERE.
BUTTHOLE SURFERS: Click HERE.
Aggression Skates: Dave’s skate shop from the 80s. Christopher became 20% owner in the second year. Read about it HERE.
CRO-MAGS: Click HERE.
YOUTH OF TODAY: Click HERE.
BAD RELIGION: Click HERE.
OP IVY: Click HERE.
DEAD KENNEDYS: Click HERE.
MINOR THREAT: Click HERE.
DAG NASTY: Click HERE.
FUGAZI: Click HERE.
THE FACTION: Click HERE.
EMBRACE: Click HERE.
RITES OF SPRING: Click HERE.
Straight Edge: A lifestyle choice of abstinence from drugs and alcohol that originated in the Washington DC punk scene in the early 1980s. It quickly caught fire in the minds of weirdos everywhere and spread worldwide. The X is used as its symbol, and SXE is how you shorthand it.
There are various good books on the subject:
Straight Edge: A Clear-Headed Hardcore Punk History: https://amzn.to/2NiDx0H
Sober Living for the Revolution: Hardcore Punk, Straight Edge, and Radical Politics: https://amzn.to/2uM1TcO
X: Straight Edge and Radical Sobriety: https://amzn.to/3a7fY4y
Straight Edge: Hardcore Punk, Clean Living Youth, and Social Change: https://amzn.to/30h1VVE
All Ages: Reflections on Straight Edge: https://amzn.to/2Rau9NI
Another State Of Mind: A hugely influential Hardcore Punk documentary that used to show late night on cable. An absolute must see. Click HERE.
AGENT ORANGE: Click HERE.
EIGHT DAYS A WEEK
Okay, this is a correction that I didn’t find until after I had recorded the end comments for this episode. Christopher mentions the song “The Kids Don’t Skate Here” and I suggest that it was by the band EIGHT DAYS A WEEK and was one of the Thrasher Magazine Skate Rock compilations. That is incorrect. While that song was on the first of those comps, the correct band is actually MINUS ONE.
EIGHT DAYS A WEEK was pro skater Claus Grabke’s band and they did not appear on a Skate Rock comp until volume 5 of that series.
MINUS ONE The Kids Don’t Skate Here: Click HERE.
ZAO: Click HERE.
WIDE AWAKE: Click HERE.
DRUNK INJUNS: Click HERE.
JOY DIVISION (WARSAW) They Walked In Line: Click HERE.
CRASS: Click HERE.
SOCIAL DISTORTION: Click HERE.
ANGRY SAMOANS: Click HERE.
SWEATY NIPPLES: Click HERE.
BLACK HAPPY: Click HERE.
SGM: Click HERE.
BROTHERHOOD: Click HERE.
FAILURE: Christpher’s Bellingham band that never got vocals recorded
MCRAD: Click HERE.
Ron: Ron Guardipee. See episode 6 of this podcast.
REFUSE: Early Seattle SXE band that became UNDERTOW.
BETTER OFF:A late-80’s hardcore band from Eastern Washington
XTREMITY:An early-90’s hardcore band from Bellingham featuring an array of this podcast’s all-stars. Sadly, there are no known recordings or video.
VERBAL ASSAULT: Click HERE.
UNDERTOW: Click HERE.
GORILLA BISCUITS: Click HERE.
4000 Holes Record Store: Click HERE.
I’VE KNOWN YOU TOO LONG
David Larson is a screenwriter from the Seattle area who ran an independent record label called EXCURSION for many years. Over the course of the last three decades, Dave has formed friendships with a large number of people who have made an artistic impact, mostly in the world of Punk Rock and Hardcore music. Many of these people have gone on to greater and more varied adventures in the worlds of art, film, music, politics, and activism. In this podcast, Dave uses the timeline of their first meeting to explore back and forth through their histories to try and gain a better understanding of how they came to be the people they are today.
They say history is written by the conquerors, and while none of these campaigns are complete yet, it is time to get some of these tales nailed down before they are lost to time and age.
Check out Dave’s episode of the WORD ON THE STREET podcast HERE.
Check out Dave and Ron Guardipee’s episode of the EDGELAND podcast HERE.
DIG THAT INTRO MUSIC?
That’s Polymorph, a project by my friend Bryar Herrick. He has a ton of stuff you can check out here:
To get his audio book, ESCHATOPOLIS: CITY AT THE END OF THE WORLD, click this link:
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