Dave and Demian lose track of time and structure almost immediately, which causes Dave to forget to ask Demian how he got the nickname “The Spice” back in the day. Despite that, the conversation does end up going most of the places it needs to go, with particular focus on late-80s skateboarding, politics, conspiracy theories, and ghosts. Everything one might expect, with some great Undertow tour stories thrown in to boot.
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Most of these conversations will contain shorthand speech and insider info that both parties will be familiar with and won’t necessarily stop to explain for the listener. Whenever possible, Dave will provide some after-the-fact definitions and descriptions. Like your own personal eavesdropping translator.
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MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:
UNDERTOW: Influential Seattle Straight Edge band from the 90’s. A cornerstone in the foundation of NW Hardcore history. Demian played bass. Click HERE.
NINEIRONSPITFIRE: A post-Undertow NW hardcore band. Demian played guitar. Click HERE.
KISS IT GOODBYE: Click HERE.
GREAT FALLS: Demian’s current band. Click HERE.
Jake Snider: Ran the record label HENRY’S FINEST RECORDINGS. Sang and played guitar for STATE ROUTE 522 and SHARKS KEEP MOVING. Currently does the same in MINUS THE BEAR. See episode 7 of this podcast.
LYNC: Click HERE.
Lex Spahr: See episode 12 of this podcast.
The Atheist Experience: Click HERE.
WTF (with Marc Maron): Click HERE.
99% Invisible: Click HERE.
STRAIN: Click HERE.
Nappy Dugout: This was an oddly-named music venue in Vancouver, BC.
HEROIN: Click HERE.
SAIDCHILD: Demian played bass. Click HERE.
BULL GOOSE LOONY: One of Dave’s bands from the Bellingham days. Click HERE.
OUTSIDE: An early 90’s Bellingham Hardcore band.
“At Both Ends”: UNDERTOW’s LP. Click HERE.
Excursion: Dave’s now defunct record label.
SUNN: Click HERE.
Phantasm: Click HERE.
The “Atmosphere” video by JOY DIVISION: Click HERE.
Pareidolia: Click HERE.
Red Dawn: The Original. Click HERE.
“My Bodyguard” the movie: Click HERE.
“My Bodyguard” (it’s actually called “You Can Call Me Al”) the song: Click HERE.
Bones Brigade: The Powell Peralta pro skate team. Click HERE.
Rodney Mullen: A man so good at skateboarding it will make you believe in the supernatural. Click HERE.
OPERATION IVY: Also called OP IVY. Ska Punk from the East Bay. Members went on to play in RANCID and others. CLICK HERE.
THE FACTION: The quintessential Skate Rock band. Perhaps you’ve heard them in a car commercial recently? Click HERE.
Animal Chin: The imaginary missing character in the Powell Peralta video “The Search for Animal Chin.” Click HERE.
BROTHERHOOD: Seattle’s Straight Edge Hardcore pioneers. Click HERE.
YOUNG FRESH FELLOWS: Click HERE.
D.R.I.: The most mentioned band of this podcast. Click HERE.
M.O.D.: Click HERE.
S.O.D.: Click HERE.
THE ACCUSED: Click HERE.
CHRIST ON A CRUTCH: Click HERE.
ECONOCHRIST: Click HERE.
INSIDE OUT: Click HERE.
GALLEON’S LAP: Almost no one knows about this band and it’s an absolute shame. Click HERE.
Straight Edge: A lifestyle choice of abstinence from drugs and alcohol that originated in the Washington DC punk scene in the early 1980s. It quickly caught fire in the minds of weirdos everywhere and spread worldwide. The X is used as its symbol, and SXE is how you shorthand it. Dave Larson has been Straight Edge since he was 16 years old, because he’s stubborn.
The MINOR THREAT song: The song that Straight Edge was named after. Click HERE.
TOKEN ENTRY: The song I’m talking about is “Integrity.” Click HERE.
Bombshelter Videos: Click HERE.
Fallout: Fallout Records and Skateboards. A Seattle institution. RIP. Click HERE.
T.S.O.L.: Click HERE.
VERBAL ASSAULT: Every band should shoot for being as good as this band. Click HERE.
THE MISFITS: Not JEM’s enemy band. The other one. Click HERE.
SWARMING HORDES: Click HERE.
RORSCHACH: The band, not the test. Or the guy. Click HERE.
NO ESCAPE: Click HERE.
CITIZENS ARREST: Click HERE.
BORN AGAINST: Killer band with THE BEST BAND NAME EVER. Click HERE.
TURNING POINT: The rare band that lived up to their t-shirt designs. Click HERE.
SHADOW SEASON: Post-Turning Point band. Click HERE.
FUGAZI: Click HERE.
MORRISSEY: Click HERE.
THE SMITHS: To see the “Girlfriend In A Coma” video, click HERE.
THE CURE: Click HERE.
BAUHAUS: Probably the first Goth band. Click HERE.
NEW ORDER: Click HERE.
RICE: Click HERE.
BUMBLESCRUMP: Click HERE.
KARP: Click HERE.
CONVERGE: Click HERE.
SPARKMARKER: Vancouver, BC band. They were fantastic. Click HERE.
Another State of Mind: Click HERE.
John Lisa: Sang and played guitar for SLEEPER/SERPICO and ran the record label Tragic Life Records. Click HERE to see him singin’.
Kim: Referring to Kim Kinakin from SPARKMARKER.
Book Your Own Fucking Life: Now defunct. Click HERE.
Dutch East: Short for Dutch East India Trading, a record label and distributor that sometimes funded Excursion projects. Click HERE.
Small Doses: Record label. Click HERE.
THE PROMISE RING: Emo band from Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Click HERE.
CAP’N JAZZ: Click HERE.
Var: Var from No Idea Records/Zine.
ENGINE KID: Click HERE.
Walter Schreifels: The dude from a LOT of truly great Hardcore bands. He does solo stuff too. Click HERE.
DEADGUY: Click HERE.
UNBROKEN: Click HERE.
CRAW: Click HERE.
CHROME: Click HERE.
JESUS LIZARD: Click HERE.
SHIFT: A NY post-hardcore band that Mark from Undertow joined. Click HERE.
DEMPSEY: Another post-UNDERTOW band that Demian played in. Click HERE.
NOTHING LEFT: Another Seattle band that Demian was in. I can’t find any single thing on the internet about them.
**Update: They still have a Myspace page! Click HERE.
BLOODLET: CLICK HERE.
COALESCE: CLICK HERE.
108: A good sounding band that talked about a bunch of garbage and mumbo-jumbo. CLICK HERE.
BOTCH: Tacoma’s finest. CLICK HERE.
INK & DAGGER: Vampire Hardcore. No, really. CLICK HERE.
SUNNY DAY REAL ESTATE: They were originally called CHEWBACCA KABOOM. CLICK HERE.
JAWBREAKER: CLICK HERE.
BARE MINIMUM: CLICK HERE.
NEGATIVE APPROACH: It is true that UNDERTOW didn’t really sound like these guys. CLICK HERE.
MUKILTEO FAIRIES: CLICK HERE.
Sub Pop: A pretty famous Seattle record label. CLICK HERE.
Revelation: Revelation Records. At one time, the best Hardcore label out there. Home of many classics. CLICK HERE.
PLAYING ENEMY: A post-KISS IT GOODBYE Demian band. CLICK HERE.
HEMINGWAY: Another one from Demian. Precursor band to to GREAT FALLS.
American Tapes: Cassette label. CLICK HERE.
KTL: CLICK HERE.
Dead Accents: Demian’s Label. CLICK HERE.
JESU: CLICK HERE.
GODFLESH: CLICK HERE.
The “Haunted Washington” site Demian mentions: Click HERE.
Recreating a Classic:
I’VE KNOWN YOU TOO LONG
David Larson is a screenwriter from the Seattle area who ran an independent record label called EXCURSION for many years. Over the course of the last three decades, Dave has formed friendships with a large number of people who have made an artistic impact, mostly in the world of Punk Rock and Hardcore music. Many of these people have gone on to greater and more varied adventures in the worlds of art, film, music, politics, and activism. In this podcast, Dave uses the timeline of their first meeting to explore back and forth through their histories to try and gain a better understanding of how they came to be the people they are today.
They say history is written by the conquerors, and while none of these campaigns are complete yet, it is time to get some of these tales nailed down before they are lost to time and age.
Check out Dave’s episode of the WORD ON THE STREET podcast HERE.
Check out Dave and Ron Guardipee’s episode of the EDGELAND podcast HERE.