017: Carl Duvall & Dave Larson
Dave and Carl both do music-based interview podcasts, so they split up the hosting duties on this one to interview each other. Dave gets a chance to revel in his redneck upbringing as Carl’s story reveals similarities in their pasts including county living, dangerous rural activities, and endless days spent on crappy BMX bikes.
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Most of these conversations will contain shorthand speech and insider info that both parties will be familiar with and won’t necessarily stop to explain for the listener. Whenever possible, Dave will provide some after-the-fact definitions and descriptions. Like your own personal eavesdropping translator.
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MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:
WITHIN: One of Carl’s bands from the 90s. Click HERE and HERE.
Be In My Band: This is Carl’s podcast. Check it out HERE.
MORAL CRUX: Ephrata, WA that has been around since 1983. Click HERE.
John’s House: “Big” John Orton’s place in Fall City, WA where a number of great shows happened in the 90s.
Ground Zero: A teen center and all ages music venue in Bellevue, WA.
UNDERTOW: Influential Seattle Straight Edge band from the 90’s. A cornerstone in the foundation of NW Hardcore history. Click HERE.
Pettibone: John Pettibone. Singer for UNDERTOW, HIMSA, HEIRESS, and others.
SALIENT GRUVE: Early Carl band. Click HERE.
10:07: Punk-pop band fronted by Matt Matsuoka. Were the first band on Dave’s record label. Click HERE.
Matt Matsuoka: See episode 13 of this podcast.
The Party Hall: A small space that was at 21st & Madison in Seattle where many all ages shows happened in the early 90s.
SAIDCHILD: An interesting band that formed in the wake of the short-lived splitting up of UNDERTOW in 1992. Heavy Morrissey influence in their look. Click HERE.
NINEIRONSPITFIRE: A post-Undertow NW hardcore band. Click HERE.
RINGWORM: Metalcore band from Cleveland. Bill Baker released their 1st LP, “The Promise”, on his record label INCISION RECORDS in 1993. Click HERE.
BLOODLET: Click HERE.
BALANCE OF THE WORLD: Another killer old Seattle area band with very little presence on the internet. Click HERE and HERE.
THE WAYOUTS: Eastside band. I can’t find any video unfortunately.
DEMPSEY: Post-UNDERTOW band that Carl’s son is named after. Click HERE.
Mulletville: For the trailers for the film made at Carl’s trailer, click HERE and HERE.
KINGDOM COME: Click HERE.
METALLICA: Click HERE.
DOKKEN: Click HERE.
SCORPIONS: Click HERE.
VAN HALEN: The Hagar era. Click HERE.
Just a Gigolo: Click HERE.
AC/DC: Click HERE.
THE MISFITS: Click HERE.
Glen Miller: Not the usual stuff we link, but pretty damn cool. Click HERE.
ANTHRAX: I’m the Man. Click HERE.
And for context, click HERE.
PANTERA: Walk. Click HERE.
THE SMITHS: This is where Morrissey got started. Click HERE.
MORRISSEY: Click HERE.
D.R.I.: Click HERE.
GUNS N’ ROSES: Click HERE.
PEARL JAM: Click HERE.
REFUSED: Click HERE.
MACKLEMORE: Probably not “Kid Clock ’n Time”, but a guy can dream. Click HERE.
THE GREEN: Eastside melodic Punk band.
TRIAL: Influential NW hardcore band that Greg Bennick sings for. Click HERE.
LEFT WITH NOTHING: Tacoma Metal/HC band that had records out on Excursion. Click HERE.
3 INCHES OF BLOOD: Click HERE.
INTEGRITY: Click HERE.
SNAPCASE: Click HERE.
DOUGHNUTS: 90’s all-female band from Sweden. Click HERE.
THIRTY’S BURNING: Another of Carl’s bands, this one from around the turn of the century. Click HERE.
RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE: Click HERE.
EMERSON, LAKE & PALMER: Click HERE.
ALICE IN CHAINS: Click HERE.
HOMETOWN HOOLIGANS: Carls’ current band. Click HERE.
GREG BENNICK: See episode 1 of this podcast. Also click HERE and HERE and HERE.
LEX: Lex Spahr. See episode 14 of this podcast.
Overkill: Overkill Records, the label run by Ron Guardipee. Click HERE.
STRAIN: Vancouver, BC Hardcore. Click HERE.
SEAWEED: Michaelanne quote while watching this video: “Why aren’t ALL videos like this?” Click HERE.
ORANGE 9MM: Click HERE.
KORN: Dude wears a kilt, so anything can happen. Click HERE.
The Edge Of Quarrel: Dave’s movie. Click HERE.
(Or buy a copy from our store.)
Aaron Edge: See episode 14 of this podcast.
Bill Baker: See episode 3 of this podcast.
The Amanda White Prank Call: Enjoy. Click HERE.
MOTLEY CRUE: Shout at the Devil. This scared some parents. Click HERE.
RATT: I still love this garbage. Click HERE.
SUICIDAL TENDENCIES: The first record is a straight up unassailable classic. Click HERE.
SEX PISTOLS: Click HERE.
THE CURE: For some really old footage, Click HERE.
7 SECONDS: Life changer. Click HERE.
Soto: Soto Rebelos. See episode 11 of this podcast.
DEPECHE MODE: Click HERE.
MINOR THREAT: Click HERE.
KISS: Evil? Probably nah. Click HERE.
INSANE CLOWN POSSE: Mentioned in reference to KISS. Sorry. Click HERE.
Henry Rollins: Click HERE.
Ian Mackaye: The Man. Click HERE and HERE.
TEEN IDLES: Pre-MINOR THREAT. Click HERE.
FOO FIGHTERS: Click HERE.
Thrasher Magazine: Click HERE.
Maximumrocknroll: Click HERE.
YOUTH OF TODAY: Click HERE.
UNIFORM CHOICE: Click HERE.
THE FACTION: Skate rock band featuring Steve Caballero. Click HERE.
Bret Van Horn: See episode 15 of this podcast.
BROTHERHOOD: Click HERE.
SLEEPER/SERPICO: Click HERE.
FRAGMENT: One of Dave’s bands from the Bellingham days. Somewhere there is one song recorded on a 4-track.
BULL GOOSE LOONY: Another one of Dave’s bands from the Bellingham days. Click HERE.
Carl with Duff McKagan:
REFUSED / WITHIN:
I’VE KNOWN YOU TOO LONG
David Larson is a screenwriter from the Seattle area who ran an independent record label called EXCURSION for many years. Over the course of the last three decades, Dave has formed friendships with a large number of people who have made an artistic impact, mostly in the world of Punk Rock and Hardcore music. Many of these people have gone on to greater and more varied adventures in the worlds of art, film, music, politics, and activism. In this podcast, Dave uses the timeline of their first meeting to explore back and forth through their histories to try and gain a better understanding of how they came to be the people they are today.
They say history is written by the conquerors, and while none of these campaigns are complete yet, it is time to get some of these tales nailed down before they are lost to time and age.
Check out Dave’s episode of the WORD ON THE STREET podcast HERE.
Check out Dave and Ron Guardipee’s episode of the EDGELAND podcast HERE.
DIG THAT INTRO MUSIC?
That’s Polymorph, a project by my friend Bryar Herrick. He has a ton of stuff you can check out here:
While you’re at it, give his other bands a listen: TICKLE TRUNK and THE DARKWAVE DEMO.
Check out books by Boris D. Schleinkofer at AMAZON and SMASHWORDS.
To get his audio book, ESCHATOPOLIS: CITY AT THE END OF THE WORLD, click this link:
Dave’s book SHADOW KILLER, a story set in the world of Hugh Howey’s book WOOL, can be found at Amazon for Kindle here:
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