A chance conversation on a city bus in the 90s forged the bonds of friendship between Griff and Dave, and they have been made only stronger over the years by the fact that they are both members of an elite group who have been close to the enigma that is Matt Matsuoka. So they talk about that, and along the way Griff charts his course from grade school skateboarder to teenage punk rocker to the black belt holding, Brazilian jiu-jitsu school owning adult that he is today. “The metal kids were right,” he concludes. Listen and find out why.
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Most of these conversations will contain shorthand speech and insider info that both parties will be familiar with and won’t necessarily stop to explain for the listener. Whenever possible, Dave will provide some after-the-fact definitions and descriptions. Like your own personal eavesdropping translator.
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MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:
Matt Matsuoka: A true madman. Singer/Guitarist for 10:07, RED ROCKET, THE HIT, and others. Writer/Director of the films “Heartbreak Beat” and “For The Cash.” Has an alter-ego called “Thee Ultramatt”. Has long held that Dave Larson’s film “The Edge Of Quarrel” contains secret gay messages. See episode 13 of this podcast. He also creates animation. HERE IS AN EXAMPLE.
THE HIT: Griff played bass for this Matt Matsuoka band. There is a track called “Divine T.B.” at about 8 minutes into the podcast.
MaximumRockNRoll: Click HERE.
TEXAS IS THE REASON: Click HERE.
THE MISFITS: Click HERE.
SICKO: Click HERE.
JAWBREAKER: Best band ever? Maybe. Click HERE.
Gilman Street: 924 Gilman. Click HERE.
I Dream Of Wires: Click HERE.
CBGBs: Legendary NYC music venue. Click HERE.
Singles Going Steady: A record store in Seattle. Click HERE.
CRAIN: Click HERE.
DEADGUY: Click HERE.
Thrashin’: Click HERE.
Gleaming The Cube: Click HERE.
Future Primitive: Click HERE.
Animal Chin: Actually called The Search for Animal Chin. Click HERE.
Sixteen Candles: Click HERE.
Ollie Impossible: Griff describes it well. HERE’S one in slow motion.
Rodney Mullen: Click HERE.
Bones Brigade Documentary: Click HERE.
Thrasher Magazine: THE go-to skateboarding magazine and an early source of information for many on Punk Rock and Hardcore. Click HERE.
Skate Rock tapes: A series of compilations released by Thrasher Magazine that were hugely influential. Some were available on vinyl as well. Click HERE.
JFA: Click HERE.
BIG BOYS: Click HERE.
DRUNK INJUNS: Click HERE.
BLACK ATHLETES: Click HERE.
AGENT ORANGE: Click HERE.
Bill Baker: See episode 3 of this podcast.
Alternative Tentacles: Click HERE.
REAGAN YOUTH: Click HERE.
DEAD KENNEDYS: Click HERE.
BLACK FLAG: Click HERE.
ALL: Click HERE.
DESCENDENTS: Click HERE.
BIG DRILL CAR: Click HERE.
TAKE CHARGE/WATERSTREET: Click HERE.
SOUL SIDE: Click HERE.
FUGAZI: Click HERE.
INTEGRITY: Click HERE.
DRIVE LIKE JEHU: Click HERE.
STRIFE: Click HERE.
UNDERTOW: Click HERE.
UNBROKEN: Oh, this video is GOOD. Click HERE.
GREEN DAY: Click HERE.
Vera Project: Click HERE.
BROKENCYDE: If you have to know, click HERE.
TRANSPLANTS: Almost makes you want to buy shampoo. Click HERE.
“And Justice For All”: A song and an album from METALLICA. Click HERE.
ANTHRAX: Click HERE.
D.R.I.: Click HERE.
CORROSION OF CONFORMITY: Click HERE.
THE BLOOD BROTHERS: Click HERE.
Hurlfest: If we ask nice maybe we can get Matt to put up part 2. HERE’S part 1.
SCREWDRIVER: An awful racist band. I’m not linking anything.
THE RAMONES: Click HERE.
SAMIAM: Click HERE.
Jeff Talley / THE DRY HEAVES: Click HERE.
SAWHORSE: Click HERE.
KEROSENE 454: Click HERE.
WELL AWAY: I think THIS is the band. Click HERE.
HIS HERO IS GONE: Click HERE.
AT THE DRIVE-IN: Click HERE.
THE MURDER CITY DEVILS: One of the best bands out of Seattle in the 90s. They also played various members of the punk gang in Dave’s movie THE EDGE OF QUARREL. Click HERE.
CASE QUARTER: Griff’s band after moving back to Seattle in 1999.
TRIAL: Influential NW hardcore band that Greg Bennick sings for. Click HERE.
BOTCH: Tacoma, WA band who’s members have gone on to make a lot of noise in bands like NARROWS, MINUS THE BEAR, and RUSSIAN CIRCLES. To see a video Dave worked on, click HERE.
Jake Snider: Ran the record label HENRY’S FINEST RECORDINGS. Sang and played guitar for STATE ROUTE 522 and SHARKS KEEP MOVING. Currently does the same in MINUS THE BEAR. See episode 7 of this podcast.
STATE ROUTE 522: An early band led by Jake Snider with a number of other interesting NW folks. Excursion Records had a number of releases that included them. Click HERE.
SEAWEED: Tacoma, WA based melodic punk / grunge band. One of the best. Click HERE.
HUTCH: Portland, OR band on Excursion in the mid-90s. Click HERE.
10:07: The first of Matt Maatsuoka’s bands bands that had releases on Excursion. Matt Played guitar and sang. Also known as TEN-O-SEVEN. Click HERE.
RED ROCKET: Post-10:07 band featuring Matt Matsuoka. Dave released a full length CD called “July” on Excursion.
LETTERS TO CLEO: Click HERE.
FASTBACKS: Click HERE.
Matt Bayles: Click HERE.
GAS HUFFER: Click HERE.
FITZ AND THE TANTRUMS: Click HERE.
THROWDOWN: Click HERE.
WALLS OF JERICHO: Click HERE.
HEIRESS: Click HERE.
PISTOLS AT DUSK: Click HERE.
Mitsuyo Maeda: Click HERE.
Forrest Griffin vs Stephan Bonnar: Click HERE.
North Shore: Click HERE.
Red Belt: Click HERE.
Vision Quest: Click HERE.
MADONNA, Crazy For You: Click HERE.
CRO-MAGS: Click HERE.
GB EDMONDS: Griff’s school in Edmonds, WA. Click HERE.
BEACH SLANG: Click HERE.
SINKING SHIPS: Click HERE.
STAYGOLD: Click HERE.
I’VE KNOWN YOU TOO LONG
David Larson is a screenwriter from the Seattle area who ran an independent record label called EXCURSION for many years. Over the course of the last three decades, Dave has formed friendships with a large number of people who have made an artistic impact, mostly in the world of Punk Rock and Hardcore music. Many of these people have gone on to greater and more varied adventures in the worlds of art, film, music, politics, and activism. In this podcast, Dave uses the timeline of their first meeting to explore back and forth through their histories to try and gain a better understanding of how they came to be the people they are today.
They say history is written by the conquerors, and while none of these campaigns are complete yet, it is time to get some of these tales nailed down before they are lost to time and age.
Check out Dave’s episode of the WORD ON THE STREET podcast HERE.
Check out Dave and Ron Guardipee’s episode of the EDGELAND podcast HERE.
DIG THAT INTRO MUSIC?
That’s Polymorph, a project by my friend Bryar Herrick. He has a ton of stuff you can check out here:
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